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    Posted: Sep-18-2010 at 2:20pm
Hi

I am just wondering if in the future the ifly 737 will simulate icing on the aircraft and cause system failures like engine flameouts.

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Hi Nick,
 
I have only seen this effect in some FSX products, who knows what will happen in the FSX version.Wink
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Well I am hoping its going to be for the fs9 version.

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we shud let dem finish da bugs n da FPS issues before silly requests like dis are mayde.
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Hi Nick,

I'm not sure the icing effects that you see in FSX can be modeled in FS9. Don't quote me on that though. I could be wrong.


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Hi 737-1000ER_Pilot,

If you register in the licensed member forum. (Which takes about 10 seconds)
We can help you with the FPS issue. I have about 100 hours in the IFLY 737 and have never had any FPS issues.
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Originally posted by 737-1000ER_PILOT 737-1000ER_PILOT wrote:

we shud let dem finish da bugs n da FPS issues before silly requests like dis are mayde.
neither have I had a fps issue, frames for me are in the same range as any other complex airliner.
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Originally posted by flyinpilot212121 flyinpilot212121 wrote:

[QUOTE=737-1000ER_PILOT]we shud let dem finish da bugs n da FPS issues before silly requests like dis are mayde.
neither have I had a fps issue, frames for me are in the same range as any other complex airliner.
P.S  i dont really think it is a silly request, I would also love to see icing effects on it, Although im not so sure it is possible in fs9, or is it?
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Simple answer icing effects are not possible in FS9, you can simulate the effects of icing forming on the aircraft but not have the visual clues

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Originally posted by John Goodwin John Goodwin wrote:

Simple answer icing effects are not possible in FS9, you can simulate the effects of icing forming on the aircraft but not have the visual clues

Im not computer specialist and in no way arguing what you are saying John(cause I heard that it wasnt possible before), But wouldnt the visual clues of icing be in the parameters of the aircraft and not the parameters of the sim itself?( just curious thats all)
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not really. The aircraft gains its FDE from the .air file and the aircradt.cfg. In order for the aircraftbitself to simulate icing, you would basically have to have 2 seperate .air files and it would be an always on or always off thing. Activesky took a stab at simulating icing and wake turbulence, but the effects from them are quite undesirable to most people. Unfortunately, fs9 is limited to icing up the pitot tubes and thats it.

Edit: Visually they would be...but the aerodynamic effect would not be
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Thanks for the reply,
As you pointed out im not a fan of the wake turbulence that is offered through active sky.
 
Im dont really notice much when it comes to icing while using activesky.
It is ine thing i wish fs9 featured was icing as it is a big part of aviation that should have been modeled.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by John Goodwin John Goodwin wrote:

Simple answer icing effects are not possible in FS9, you can simulate the effects of icing forming on the aircraft but not have the visual clues


It is possible in FS9.  The Ariane model simulates icing.  The windows freeze up if the window icing isn't turned on after a certain altitude.   Pitot Heat simulation has been a part of Flight Simulator since FS5.1 (maybe before that). 

System's flameout can be simulated if certain switches aren't on just like the aforementioned window freezing and instruments dying because the Pitot Heat is off and the tube is blocked by ice... 

It's all in what the developer want to do... Geek
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And that is true that they do simulate the window freezing up. I think the original poster is referring to the effects that another developer has modeled with the wings showing visible signs of ice and the drag it creates if not properly dealt with. As far as I aware, and has been pointed out. I do not think that can be done with FS9
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Something is better than nothing...
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If possible visual window ice should be added at some point, that would be icing on the cake for sure, although not an important issue right now, but maybe at some point.Wink

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